[DUG] More Delphi news...

Jeremy Coulter vss at vss.co.nz
Thu Apr 27 16:41:33 NZST 2006


 Yeah the F5 button issue was a problem ,and also originally the version 
that comes with D7 would not even handle the back button in your browser of 
choice.
They seem to be a number of version along now, so just wondered if anyone 
else has tried they latest one.

I am laos looking at a product call Babyweb which I looked at a while ago, 
that is basically a webserver that will let you run "Most" ASP pages thru 
it. The good thing about it is, its like 200KB, reliable, you can even run 
CGI apps thru it, AND its free...well not for non commercial, thats $200 US 
which is still a good price, but where its good for me is, I can develop ASP 
pages and know I cen release it to a site with IIS already running, OR use 
babyweb if the machine our software runs on is on like a win98 machine

Jeremy
 


-----Original Message-----
From: "Kyley Harris" <kyley at harrissoftware.com>
To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:30:48 +1200
Subject: RE: [DUG] More Delphi news...


I found intraweb to be junkware.
 
The documentation is sadly lacking for the price charged for the full 
version. 
 
This review is a year old. J
 
It had so many bugs its not funny. More often than not. Pressing f5 on the 
browser would come up with “browser not supported errors” and then press 
it again would be fine. Like Russian roulette. 
The session management got corrupted very very easily. The html output was 
disgusting.
 
I actually found it much easier to simply learn more about how javascript 
actually works, and html. And then use a decent html editor (dreamweaver or 
notepad) to template up all my pages. And the use a simple TWebModule, or
Other with action handlers. 
 
It is really quite easy to use a TWebRequest and TWebResponse object with 
some mailmerge features on html to do most stuff.
 



From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz] On 
Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter
Sent: Thursday, 27 April 2006 4:22 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: RE: [DUG] More Delphi news...
 
 Yeah, I must admit, I am stuggeling to find a need to use .NET, apart from 
Webservices are quite easy to make, and the ability to make apps. for mobile 
PC's.
BUT, I know its the way forward, so I need to do SOMETHING, prob. some 
framework 2 training as I did frame work 1.1. and my documentation is 
slightly different etc. etc.
 
Just ont he subject of Intraweb, how many of you out there are using it? I 
quite like it, but have not done a lot of development with it, although I am 
thinking about it for a thin client solution I need to look.
 
Jeremy
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: "Sean Cross - CRM" <sean.cross at crm.co.nz>
To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:02:47 +1200
Subject: RE: [DUG] More Delphi news...
I think this comes down to horses for courses. I spent 3 years doing C# and 
C++ before coming back to delphi.  There are a number of areas where C# is 
better and and a large number of areas where it is worse.

Server side, C# and .net is probably better (althoug I find intraweb easier 
to use than asp) but for client side apps delphi is far better.  C# has a 
larger and richer stand library but a much worse visual control set.  

The only real advatage of C# for me is garbage collection (which is not a 
panacea for memory leaks) which is vastly outweighted by it's inability to 
compile to native code.

YMMV.

Regards

Sean
-----------------------------
Sean Cross
Systems Development

CRM
PO Box 230
Napier
Phone:   06 835 5868
Mobile:  021 270 3466
Email:   sean.cross at crm.co.nz


 

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