Might I add that I can't either. --- Richard Vowles Borland Solutions Architect DDI: +64-9-9184573, Cell: +64-21-467747 email and IM/MSN: richard.vowles at borland.com Skype: rvowles -----Original Message----- So given this is a process discussion really, can you guys tell me exactly how much re-work you do? Betcha ya can't. Richard