[DUG] Delphi 2006 snippet
Rohit Gupta
rohit at cfl.co.nz
Wed Jun 15 09:08:54 NZST 2005
I agree in this case. :-)
Just to let people know, I came across a webpage where it said that
the majority of the IDE problems were caused by together and gave
instructions on how to fix the registry entries. I have to say that the
IDE is now snappier and has not crashed once. Before, on bad
days it would crash 8-10 times.
Date sent: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:02:33 +1200
From: Kyley Harris <kyleyharris at gmail.com>
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I am glad you are happy with the concept.
I would be more comfortable with it if the original purchased item
actually worked as stated, and that the quick releases were for
genuine reasons. Clearly D2006 is a release for the purpose of
charging people for fixing bugs in D2005 version. I don't want an
assured copy of D2006, i want a working copy of D2005.
They are working too fast on feature creep. This is causeing scope
creep, which leads to bad design, which gave us a bung product.
All in all, D2005 is not such a bad product as to be unuseable, but it
is not a "finished" product, and I doubt '06 will be either. This time
I'll wait 8 months into the track to see how all the people on
software Assurance are doing with it.
On 6/15/05, Jason Saggers <jsaggers at esp.co.nz> wrote:
> I acutally find the software assurance resonable. We use the Architect
> Version, and given that Borland release a new version about every 18
> months, and the Software assurance is a third of the cost of the full
> version, then you are getting 3 complete release for the cost of 2.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Brennan [mailto:dugdavid at dbsolutions.co.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 6:01 p.m.
> To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
> Subject: RE: [DUG] Delphi 2006 snippet
>
> It's not exactly a Borland invention. Microsoft do exactly the same
> thing - you don't get the right to cheap upgrades to new versions,
> instead you have to buy the right to get new versions for a certain
> period of time.
>
> In general I actually agree with you Kyley but it's a problem with the
> whole industry. I think it's come about because people were seeing less
> reason to upgrade to the latest versions of software. I mean really
> Office 2003 doesn't offer much more useful functionality than Office XP
> or Office 2000 or even Office 97 did. So people have realised they don't
> need to upgrade every release and in response companies like Microsoft
> decided to get even by removing the discount for upgrading if you
> already have the product.
>
> At least we can be thankful that Borland do still have upgrade pricing
> for their products.
>
> David.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
> On Behalf Of Kyley Harris
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 5:45 p.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi 2006 snippet
>
> It is an extra fee that states that you will get the bug fixes in new
> versions without paying upgrades. so it means you are paying for an
> upgrade before you want or expect it.
>
> Consumer affairs could have a field day with that.
>
> Advertise a product for a fee and you are supposed to get that product
> Fit for purpose. The Software assurance scheme when you think about it
> is actually a promise buy the vendor that you will not get what is
> advertised.
>
> On 6/14/05, JeremyN at frontiersoftware.com.au
> <JeremyN at frontiersoftware.com.au> wrote:
> > What is software assurance?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kyley Harris [mailto:kyleyharris at gmail.com]
> > Sent: 14 June 2005 3:09 PM
> > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> > Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi 2006 snippet
> >
> > IMHO. Surely using software assurance is simply a way of either 1/
> > Indicating the product will not live up to expectations 2/ Doubling
> > the price, but making it seem reasonable.
> >
> > If only the leaky home issue had something like Builders Assurance .
> >
> > We could sell a house for 150,000 and for an extra 80,000 your
> > builders assurance will qualify you for a dry, sound home.. hmmmmm the
> possibilities
> > of escaping good quality promises are endless.
> >
> > Kyley
> >
> > On 6/14/05, Richard Vowles <Richard.Vowles at borland.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, if you were sensible and took out software assurance, you
> > > wouldn't have to :-)
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Richard Vowles
> > > Borland Solutions Architect
> > > DDI: +64-9-9184573, Cell: +64-21-467747 email and IM/MSN:
> > > richard.vowles at borland.com
> > > Skype: rvowles
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz
> > > [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
> > > On Behalf Of Kyley Harris
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 3:46 p.m.
> > > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> > > Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi 2006 snippet
> > >
> > > Question. Delphi 2006, or Delphi 2005 Update pack 4?
> > >
> > > because I would hate to think that I have to pay to upgrade a
> > > product that has never worked properly.
> > > Cheers Kyley
> > >
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