[DUG] Delphi 2006 snippet

[Kyley Harris]

Certainly Borland is not the instigator of this kind of thing. To
quote a friend "Revenue Assurance" is what it should be called, not
"Software Assurance". In NZ we are supposed to be assured that the
product we buy will suit the intended purpose. If it does not suit the
intended purpose, it should not have been sold, or the remedies should
not be oncharged to the duped client.

Microsoft is absolutely a marketing company first, and revenue driven.
Borlands biggest reason that kept people to them was the fact that
they provided quality and a good expectation of quality. This process
of garnering revenue without concern to what is released it not a step
forward. We are getting releases of delphi faster that I can blink
eyelids. People who bought delphi 8 were conned. It was gone before
you could take it out of the shrinkwrap, and being forced to upgrade
to d2005, I say forced because we are forced by faulty products to
keep on spending in the hopes of a better version.

I could probably rant about the economics of it for a lifetime, so I
better cut it short.

Richard probably stopped listening long ago anyway :) (besides, its
hardly his fault)



On 6/14/05, David Brennan <dugdavid at dbsolutions.co.nz> wrote:
> It's not exactly a Borland invention. Microsoft do exactly the same thing -
> you don't get the right to cheap upgrades to new versions, instead you have
> to buy the right to get new versions for a certain period of time.
> 
> In general I actually agree with you Kyley but it's a problem with the whole
> industry. I think it's come about because people were seeing less reason to
> upgrade to the latest versions of software. I mean really Office 2003
> doesn't offer much more useful functionality than Office XP or Office 2000
> or even Office 97 did. So people have realised they don't need to upgrade
> every release and in response companies like Microsoft decided to get even
> by removing the discount for upgrading if you already have the product.
> 
> At least we can be thankful that Borland do still have upgrade pricing for
> their products.
> 
> David.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz] On
> Behalf Of Kyley Harris
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 5:45 p.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi 2006 snippet
> 
> It is an extra fee that states that you will get the bug fixes in new
> versions without paying upgrades. so it means you are paying for an
> upgrade before you want or expect it.
> 
> Consumer affairs could have a field day with that.
> 
> Advertise a product for a fee and you are supposed to get that product
> Fit for purpose. The Software assurance scheme when you think about it
> is actually a promise buy the vendor that you will not get what is
> advertised.
> 
> On 6/14/05, JeremyN at frontiersoftware.com.au
> <JeremyN at frontiersoftware.com.au> wrote:
> > What is software assurance?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kyley Harris [mailto:kyleyharris at gmail.com]
> > Sent: 14 June 2005 3:09 PM
> > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> > Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi 2006 snippet
> >
> > IMHO. Surely using software assurance is simply a way of either 1/
> > Indicating the product will not live up to expectations 2/ Doubling the
> > price, but making it seem reasonable.
> >
> > If only the leaky home issue had something like Builders Assurance  .
> >
> > We could sell a house for 150,000 and for an extra 80,000 your builders
> > assurance will qualify you for a dry, sound home.. hmmmmm the
> possibilities
> > of escaping good quality promises are endless.
> >
> > Kyley
> >
> > On 6/14/05, Richard Vowles <Richard.Vowles at borland.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, if you were sensible and took out software assurance, you
> > > wouldn't have to :-)
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Richard Vowles
> > > Borland Solutions Architect
> > > DDI: +64-9-9184573, Cell: +64-21-467747 email and IM/MSN:
> > > richard.vowles at borland.com
> > > Skype: rvowles
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz
> > > [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
> > > On Behalf Of Kyley Harris
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 3:46 p.m.
> > > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> > > Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi 2006 snippet
> > >
> > > Question. Delphi 2006, or Delphi 2005 Update pack 4?
> > >
> > > because I would hate to think that I have to pay to upgrade a product
> > > that has never worked properly.
> > > Cheers Kyley
> > >
> > >
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