[DUG] Demoing at a DUG Meeting - Accredo or otherwise

Neven MacEwan neven at mwk.co.nz
Sat Aug 20 06:13:54 NZST 2005


Richard/Paul/Max

The Profax/Accredo story reminds me of Bristol making cars, it was said 
that they wouldn't buy in a component for 5 pounds if they could make it 
for 20, I've seen 2 Bristols on the road in my life.

I admire there UI philosophy (If we don't like it we rewrite it ) but 
can't agree with much else in the product. Which leads me to think 
(somewhat vaguely related)

1/ If Delphi is OO and encapsulated then why do some of us insist on 
ignoring that at a macro level (and reinventing things)

2/ We use Delphi because it is the "Best of breed" dev tool, but why do 
so many use Interbase/Firebird. which even the most deluded of us 
couldn't say is in the same echelon (Richard excluded, he's paid to be 
deluded)

3/ MySQL (and MYOB) offer a salient lesson here, neither product is 
technically excellent but both are relatively ubiquitous, why? simply 
because the decision to use them was not made by people with the 
skill/experiance/knowledge to know better (Web Hackers and Accountants)
But the numbers count.

4/ Finally I'm dying to see how Paul et al does the DB independance with 
triggers and stored procs trick, intellectually because it is enormously 
difficult and fraught with danger, and philosophically because its 
relatively pointless. Pragmatically you would choose MSSQL, With my 
pathological hatred of M$ you would chuck in (select 1 from the 
following list), PostgeSQL, My(Max)SQL, Firebird even 2 db's would drive
most dev's to distraction not only in static considerations 
(functionality, stored proc script language, trigger syntax, ddl...) but 
as you will find out the dynamic performance can vary considerably 
executing 2 identical scripts on the same data....

Neven

Laugh of the Day, M$ are taking on their browser competition with IE7, 
unfortunately you need XP with SP2 to run it



Richard Vowles wrote:
> The last thing Paul needs is more people telling him he and his team are
> clever. 
> 
> 
> :-)
> 
> Richard 
> 
> 
> ---
> Richard Vowles, Solutions Architect, Borland New Zealand
> email: richard.vowles at borland.com
> phone: +64-9-9184573
> cell: +64-21-467747
> other: MSN richard.vowles at borland.com, skype: rvowles
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
> On Behalf Of Leigh Wanstead
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2005 8:47 a.m.
> To: paul at accredo.co.nz; delphi at ns3.123.co.nz
> Subject: RE: [DUG] Demoing at a DUG Meeting - Accredo or otherwise
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> You are very clever. ;-) MySQL has a whole company just to support
> database.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Heinz [mailto:paul at accredo.co.nz]
> Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2005 5:55 p.m.
> To: leighw at softtech.co.nz; NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: RE: [DUG] Demoing at a DUG Meeting - Accredo or otherwise
> 
> 
> Leigh asked:
> 
>>May I ask how many developers you employ? The reason I ask is it seems
> 
> 
>>it need an army of software developers to develope and maintain the
> 
> code.
> 
> We have four developers in our team with the following core
> responsibilities:
> Paul Heinz - Database, Application,
> Max Nilson - Controls, Designers, MaxBasic, Peter Stratford -
> Application Steve Newby - SQL
> 
> Regards,
>   Paul.
> 
> 
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